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OK, I can live with going now. I suggest we (you) e-mail all Webring members.
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Shakespeare wrote:OK, I can live with going now. I suggest we (you) e-mail all Webring members.
All we need to do is edit my proposed TM announcement.
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It's done. I put it in General Finance because it's more likely to be seen there. Once it's off the front page, I'll move it to Admin.

Barry, if you want to publish a note at Bogleheads now, either in private or public, feel free.
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I think we want some consistent application criteria for editors. Earlier I suggested a bright line based on number of posts outside Soap Box & Admin. We have to be a little more flexible than that, e.g. I see no point in letting blonde edit.
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Why do we have to publish any criteria on allowing editors at this point?
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That announcement needs a far better title than just "finiki" (so what says the reader, passing on). How about "finiki: The Financial Webring Wiki"?
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Shakespeare wrote:That announcement needs a far better title than just "finiki" (so what says the reader, passing on). How about "finiki: The Financial Webring Wiki"?
I agree 100%.
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Should the finiki forum be unhidden but read only if you're an editor?
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Norbert Schlenker wrote:It's done. I put it in General Finance because it's more likely to be seen there. Once it's off the front page, I'll move it to Admin.

Barry, if you want to publish a note at Bogleheads now, either in private or public, feel free.
Congratulations! I will post an announcement on the bogleshead forum and with our small wiki staff. I would greatly appreciate any of you who can post on the bogleheads to post a comment or two on my announcement post.

Here is my post:

ANNOUNCEMENT: Webring Launches finiki.

[edit: added link to post]

thanks,
Barry
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The Management wrote:It's done. I put it in General Finance because it's more likely to be seen there. Once it's off the front page, I'll move it to Admin.
I've locked it as an announcement so that it says on the front page on the basis that nobody reads Admin. Eventually, we'll move it but I think not yet.
The Management wrote:I think we want some consistent application criteria for editors. Earlier I suggested a bright line based on number of posts outside Soap Box & Admin. We have to be a little more flexible than that, e.g. I see no point in letting blonde edit.
Nope. It's open to anyone, including blonde, by request. However, one reference to guiding principles, harpoonists, or anyone of the usual claptrap and the editor's card gets pulled.
Shakespeare wrote:Should the finiki forum be unhidden but read only if you're an editor?
I'm betwixt and between on this one. I think unhidden but opening it now might lead to all kinds of peripheral and detracting kibbitzing. Why don't we see what kind of commentary the announcement generates? If none :( , then pull back the read only curtain. If constructive :D, then pull back the read only curtain.
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First request is from travesty. Here we go.
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adrian as well. He's set up but needs viewing rights here.
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Did you set adrian up? I appreciate your trying to help, but if you're going to do that, you also have to tell them what the password is. ;)
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Norbert Schlenker wrote:Did you set adrian up? I appreciate your trying to help, but if you're going to do that, you also have to tell them what the password is. ;)
When he was set up, he was sent his password with a request to change it as soon as he logs in.
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Set up Norm. He's volunteered to do the efficient market entry. :lol:
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I've recruited canucknyc from bogleheads.
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Hello all - I'm honored to be invited to help out as an editor for the wiki!
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yielder wrote:
Shakespeare wrote:Should the finiki forum be unhidden but read only if you're an editor?
I'm betwixt and between on this one. I think unhidden but opening it now might lead to all kinds of peripheral and detracting kibbitzing. Why don't we see what kind of commentary the announcement generates? If none :( , then pull back the read only curtain. If constructive :D, then pull back the read only curtain.
Let's open it up to for all to read.
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Hello editors - I was just approved this morning to join in. I'm a bit of a grammar nut, so when I have some free time I might scour through some articles and help out in terms of coherence. I will try and be judicious about adding actual financial content since I'm a relative newbie. Looking forward to seeing this develop!
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I've hidden this forum from all but editors.

I had hopes that an open discussion would entice people to join in but we seem to have run out of interested parties. (OTOH, having been able to see it for a while and now being unable may entice a few. ;))
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The rush has been underwhelming. :?
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Shakespeare wrote:The rush has been underwhelming. :?
Your experience in attracting new editors is closely paralleling our early experience at the bogleheads, and hopefully you won't have the announcement next week of a webring book project enlisting 50 of your best prolific forum writers as well as 5 editors, none of whom will come near the wiki for 12 months if at all-- this was our experience . On the other hand, patience can be rewarded.

It may help if you and your staff make an effort to include a wiki link in your forum posts whenever opportunity knocks. Of our outreach efforts to date-- solicitations, weekly wiki activity reports, and the issuance of wiki buttons,--it is the buttons that seem have had the greatest effect in garnering new editors.

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I suspect that many people are afraid to tackle a new article because they think there are people here that know more about it. But the sections do not spring fully formed from the brow of Zeus.
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Shakespeare wrote:I suspect that many people are afraid to tackle a new article because they think there are people here that know more about it. But the sections do not spring fully formed from the brow of Zeus.
Your suspicion is probably correct; it's a lot less daunting to add a sentence or two to an existing article than to write the first draft.

Eventually, I would like to contribute but I have to learn the ins and outs of wiki editing first. I am finishing up a major work project and breaking in a new computer, so it will be a few days before I can dabble.

Re: above concerns about apparent lack of interest from forum members: A wiki doesn't just magically appear; it has to be built. Like a snowball rolling downhill, it grows faster the bigger it gets. Once our wiki starts to take shape, interest and participation will pick up.
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A related issue. Last night after someone mentioned RedFlagDeal's savings account interest rate table, I added it to the Deposit Rates page. I also added RFD's article that compares the T&Cs of several high interest savings accounts.

So far so good. But the former table obsoletes the existing Top 12 Highest Savings Account Rates section on the same page. I don't feel comfortable about deleting that because it might get someone's nose out of joint. I know it shouldn't and even if I delete it they could always restore it, etc. but it's a bit of leap of faith to just go and delete someone else's contributing without the risk of offending them. (I'll probably get over it once someone does something similar to me ;))
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