Re: to buy new or used car?
Posted: 18 Nov 2016 19:31
Sure, for frequent short distance, rentals are out.
Take any car then, should be good for couple of years
Take any car then, should be good for couple of years
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Buy a 10 year old Corolla and buy liability insurance and drive it until it quits. Would probably cost 5 or 6 k. With the mileage you put on I would think you could drive it 10 years without any need for repairs. You get excellent gas mileage as well.IdOp wrote:No it wasn't a typo, but quite understandable that it might look like one. I agree also that purely financially it doesn't make sense to have the car, so the suggestions to consider alternatives are good ones in case someone didn't think about doing that.
The car is used mostly for short local trips, primarily weekly grocery shopping and driving a quite elderly relative to various doctor visits. For those purposes the cost of rental would probably be out, but a taxi/uber would be cheaper. Both would be quite tedious though. The convenience, independence and consistent quality of having a car easily available has real value to us.
I tell myself that some of the money being saved by ultra-low-cost investing and other frugalities might as well be spent on something like that.
Then it hardly matters how good the deal for the 2016 really is. The 'need' for a new car will never be a value proposition so the person should just go buy whatever suits his/her fancy using the end of model year discounts being offered by the manufacturers. And to do it now before year end when both manufacturers and dealers want to clear their books.IdOp wrote:In addition, here the other person involved is averse to "used cars" due to experience/mistakes of the past. While not all that relevant, it is what it is. So, looking for a good deal on a 2016 from a dealer is the approach being tried now. If that fails, going somewhat into used territory may be necessary.
What do dealers do with 2016 models that are still hanging around in the spring? Also, Is it just me, or does it seem like dealers are not even interested in cash sales anymore? I have expressed some interest to my salesperson and there is no effort to try and lure me in. Could be that she's on to my Scottish 'careful' ways or that they really want to lease and make loans, to truly double down on the money they make. (?)AltaRed wrote:Then it hardly matters how good the deal for the 2016 really is. The 'need' for a new car will never be a value proposition so the person should just go buy whatever suits his/her fancy using the end of model year discounts being offered by the manufacturers. And to do it now before year end when both manufacturers and dealers want to clear their books.IdOp wrote:In addition, here the other person involved is averse to "used cars" due to experience/mistakes of the past. While not all that relevant, it is what it is. So, looking for a good deal on a 2016 from a dealer is the approach being tried now. If that fails, going somewhat into used territory may be necessary.
It depends on what kind of beater you drive. I just sold a Honda Ridleline with 260k mileage. Maintenance? oil change , brake job at 130k, timing belt at 130k, change are filters once a year that's it. Same with a Toyota Corolla which has 253k on it. If it is a Honda or a Toyota and the brakes have been done and the timing belt has been done I don't see any trips to a mechanic. Once a year to Mr Lube for an oil change should do it. That's why certain makes hold there value much better then other makes.Insomniac wrote:I'm wondering what type of car will work on the Pacific seabed, 100 miles off the California coast? Submarine?
I won't be buying another used car as a daily driver. Beaters are fine if you can do your own maintenance. I used to do all my own maintenance: oil changes, brakes, timing belts, plugs, filters, etc. As I get older, it's harder to do; lying under a car in the cold and dark ain't fun anymore. Plus, I don't have the equipment to deal with all the new computer controlled devices in the newer cars.
I have a 1954 Chevy which I work on - it's a simple, easy to manage machine. If it needs work, it can wait until I feel like it as it's not my daily driver. Changed the antifreeze, dumped some fuel stabilizer in the tank and charged the battery today. It can sleep until next Spring.
Dealers do not make much on the actual sale of the car itself. For many dealers, most if not all their money at the front end( sales) is made in the business office. This is the office they refer you to after the sale is made. The 'business manager' will then sell you financing, rust proof, fabric & paint protection, etching etc etc. These are mostly pure profit. The dealer gets kick backs on the financing as well. Total of kickbacks and other busiiness office sales can be up to 5-6000, a good % of which is profit.2 yen wrote:What do dealers do with 2016 models that are still hanging around in the spring? Also, Is it just me, or does it seem like dealers are not even interested in cash sales anymore? I have expressed some interest to my salesperson and there is no effort to try and lure me in. Could be that she's on to my Scottish 'careful' ways or that they really want to lease and make loans, to truly double down on the money they make. (?)AltaRed wrote:Then it hardly matters how good the deal for the 2016 really is. The 'need' for a new car will never be a value proposition so the person should just go buy whatever suits his/her fancy using the end of model year discounts being offered by the manufacturers. And to do it now before year end when both manufacturers and dealers want to clear their books.IdOp wrote:In addition, here the other person involved is averse to "used cars" due to experience/mistakes of the past. While not all that relevant, it is what it is. So, looking for a good deal on a 2016 from a dealer is the approach being tried now. If that fails, going somewhat into used territory may be necessary.
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You're on exactly the right track! It would be a mechanical "terror" fish craft (with movable jaw):Insomniac wrote:I'm wondering what type of car will work on the Pacific seabed, 100 miles off the California coast? Submarine?
Earlier this month this quest reached a conclusion when I purchased a new vehicle. I'll try to pull out some generalities from my experience that may be helpful.On 31 Oct 2016 I wrote:I recently became the point-person in the quest to replace a 24-year-old vehicle.
Kcowan, do you speak Spanish or did you find an English speaking mechanic in PV?kcowan wrote:When my 93 Explorer needed a new computer, I got it from Rock Auto online, delivered to my mechanic in Mexico, for $184. The car still only has 140,000 km on it. Owned since new. I am stubborn and not proud.
After Firestone replaced all the tires for free, I have replaced 2 and will replace the other 2 in a year or so.
all professionals have English skills and my guy is a trained Audi mechanic. He had completed his apprenticeship at the Audi dealer and was going out on his own. Cost a bit more than the hackers but still cheap compared to Canada. His place is always full but he does respond to emergencies.8Toretirement wrote: ↑30 Jan 2017 11:08Kcowan, do you speak Spanish or did you find an English speaking mechanic in PV?kcowan wrote:When my 93 Explorer needed a new computer, I got it from Rock Auto online, delivered to my mechanic in Mexico, for $184. The car still only has 140,000 km on it. Owned since new. I am stubborn and not proud.
After Firestone replaced all the tires for free, I have replaced 2 and will replace the other 2 in a year or so.
His Jeep had a Mercedes diesel motor. I do believe that the Japanese and Germans have a better grasp for this technology.AltaRed wrote: ↑02 Aug 2017 22:58 I have 2 thoughts about turbochargers: 1) They are an extra system that can go wrong...even if it doesn't, and 2) I don't like the response lag as the turbocharger spools up to generate the extra horsepower. When I hit the throttle, the acceleration better happen immediately.
P.S. IMO, the domestic manufacturers still don't really know how to build powertrains. Your friend's problem was owning a Jeep. Buy German or Japanese and you should be fine. Check JD Power and Consumer Report ratings yourself if you disagree.