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Shaw bill just arrived. Rate for internet goes up $4 effective Jan 1, 2015. Rate increase about twice the rate of inflation, but they have us over barrel with no alternative high speed service available here.
I guess this makes Shaw a good investment - they can't lose.
I guess this makes Shaw a good investment - they can't lose.
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Received Dec 13, 2016Starting on March 6, 2017, the following services currently included with your Internet plan are being retired:
Members.shaw.ca
Webspace
Photo Share
Video Mail
No compensating price adjustment. I guess I will be shopping.
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Not sure where you are located, but many places in Canada should see some level of competition starting next year. The CRTC has ordered the incumbents to allow new entrants to use the incumbents' networks to reach customers (the expensive last mile and all that). Now they are haggling taking a reasoned look at the price the incumbents can charge for this "wholesale access".Insomniac wrote:they have us over barrel with no alternative high speed service available here.
George
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I got an email telling me my internet bill was going down $2 a month starting January - I am with TekSavvy. Didn't ask them just came out of the blue - never seen that before!
It relates to what George said - quoted from the email
It relates to what George said - quoted from the email
We’re happy to be able to offer better value as a result of a change in one of our key costs of supply, wholesale network access. We connect our own network up to incumbents’ last-mile accesses, where they exist, in order to serve you. A recent CRTC decision, known as Telecom Order CRTC 2016-396, made interim corrections to the price ceiling that incumbents are permitted to charge for wholesale access to last-mile access
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Yes, Teksavvy is here now. I phoned Shaw threatening to switch; they lowered my bill and upped my speed.ghariton wrote:Not sure where you are located, but many places in Canada should see some level of competition starting next year. The CRTC has ordered the incumbents to allow new entrants to use the incumbents' networks to reach customers (the expensive last mile and all that). Now they are haggling taking a reasoned look at the price the incumbents can charge for this "wholesale access".Insomniac wrote:they have us over barrel with no alternative high speed service available here.
George
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I fear shaw cancelling their web hosting may result in the loss of a few customers. There are those out there hanging onto their accounts web because you can't easily redirect your website elsewhere.
One would think they could contract out the maintenance of webspace elsewhere... I guess they seemed a redirect and contract too difficult...
In my opinion, Shaw isn't managing their Wind acquisition very well: trying to charge first-rate network rates and limits on a second-rate network. I dealt with it for the low prices, but i couldn't imagine signing up today. I switched over 3 lines to Public Mobile during their promo, encouraged another and countless others indirectly.
This is why I like using independents (and in a similar way, amazon) for some of my internet service needs: every year, they find ways to *lower* their costs and pass it on to me.
One would think they could contract out the maintenance of webspace elsewhere... I guess they seemed a redirect and contract too difficult...
In my opinion, Shaw isn't managing their Wind acquisition very well: trying to charge first-rate network rates and limits on a second-rate network. I dealt with it for the low prices, but i couldn't imagine signing up today. I switched over 3 lines to Public Mobile during their promo, encouraged another and countless others indirectly.
Yabbut, when has Shaw ever lowered your bill *without* asking?Insomniac wrote: Yes, Teksavvy is here now. I phoned Shaw threatening to switch; they lowered my bill and upped my speed.
This is why I like using independents (and in a similar way, amazon) for some of my internet service needs: every year, they find ways to *lower* their costs and pass it on to me.
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I know I am leaving them. Have you found an easy transition for webspace? That is my biggest problem!
I can spend a year migrating all my email addresses (I use outlook.com) but will probably use google/Thunderbird.
I can spend a year migrating all my email addresses (I use outlook.com) but will probably use google/Thunderbird.
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I've moved my tiny network of websites to Amazon S3. It's just a set of static files (probably like Shaw webspace). Bandwidth costs for ~4k visitors per month is about 17 cents US. Your first year will probably be free. Reliability is never an issue. They find ways to reduce their prices once or twice a year. And I have no doubts about their corporate sustainability (financial, not environmental).
http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/lat ... sting.html
https://blog.hartleybrody.com/static-site-s3/
My biggest "expense" for Amazon is the 50 cents/domain/month for DNS, but it sounds like I could use Cloudflare and this would be free? And the costs for the domains themselves.
Otherwise, a $3.95-$6/month account from Hostpapa or Bluehost (or a friend that has one) for ease-of-use. Or one of these: http://alignedleft.com/resources/cheap-web-hosting
But as for the redirects... best bet might be to put up a notice on the old site while you can that eventually refreshes to the new page. I doubt you'll be able to do a 301 redirect at the webserver level.
http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/lat ... sting.html
https://blog.hartleybrody.com/static-site-s3/
My biggest "expense" for Amazon is the 50 cents/domain/month for DNS, but it sounds like I could use Cloudflare and this would be free? And the costs for the domains themselves.
Otherwise, a $3.95-$6/month account from Hostpapa or Bluehost (or a friend that has one) for ease-of-use. Or one of these: http://alignedleft.com/resources/cheap-web-hosting
But as for the redirects... best bet might be to put up a notice on the old site while you can that eventually refreshes to the new page. I doubt you'll be able to do a 301 redirect at the webserver level.
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Re: Shaw Communications (Symbol-SJR.B)
Sold Shaw some time ago. No plans to rebuy.
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Same. I enjoyed the monthly dividend, but it simply wasn't worth my capital at this time. I had long thought it would be a takeover candidate for Rogers (and maybe will be in the future). I just got tired of not seeing a value stimulus or the necessary growth prospects. Wind may provide that, but it was also very expensive in my opinion. I felt scale might finally start to hurt them by getting squeezed by the big 3 above and all the start ups below. Still a good monthly payer, but it was time for me to move on.Shakespeare wrote:Sold Shaw some time ago. No plans to rebuy.
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The bells are ringing - and it ain't "buy":
CALGARY, ALBERTA--(Marketwired - Dec. 16, 2016) - Shaw Communications Inc. (TSX:SJR.B)(TSX:SJR.PR.A)(TSX:SJR.PR.B)(NYSE:SJR)(TSX VENTURE:SJR.A) (Shaw) announced today that its eligible shareholders who are residents of the United States can now enroll their Class A Participating Shares (Class A Shares) and Class B Non-Voting Participating Shares (Class B Shares) in its dividend reinvestment plan (Plan)
Already sold mine.
Shaw Extends Dividend Reinvestment Plan to Residents of the United Statesbehind paywall wrote:The Globe and Mail - Dec 27, 2016
Shaw cuts executive salaries, but pensions remain plump
The Globe and Mail - 15 hours ago
CALGARY, ALBERTA--(Marketwired - Dec. 16, 2016) - Shaw Communications Inc. (TSX:SJR.B)(TSX:SJR.PR.A)(TSX:SJR.PR.B)(NYSE:SJR)(TSX VENTURE:SJR.A) (Shaw) announced today that its eligible shareholders who are residents of the United States can now enroll their Class A Participating Shares (Class A Shares) and Class B Non-Voting Participating Shares (Class B Shares) in its dividend reinvestment plan (Plan)
Already sold mine.
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Woof, isn't shaw one of the Dogs of the TSX this year 2017?
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Yep. Using the "no former trusts" screen we get
Inter Pipeline IPL-T
BCE Inc. BCE-T
Emera Inc. EMA-T
Pembina Pipeline Corp. PPL-T
CIBC CM-T
TELUS Corp. T-T
Power Corp of Canada POW-T
Shaw Communications SJR.B-T
National Bank of Canada NA-T
Bank of Nova Scotia BNS-T
Fortis Inc. FTS-T
Enbridge Inc. ENB-T
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I own all but the trusts but I have them in ZEO no Shaw cause I have Telus and Bce. Oops don't directly own POW but I own PWF, GWO and IGM close enough.
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Anecdotal information:
My nephew, who is on Shaw and has worked with computers since leaving tech school, tells me that Shaw appears to be throttling his cable and his node may be overloaded. Yesterday and today I put an SSD in my neighbour's laptop and did several downloads via Shaw. I also saw throttling, and told my neighbour that if I had his internet response I would switch to Telus the next day. To be fair, the throttling could have been upstream from Shaw.
If Shaw isn't putting enough money into expanding their nodes, they are going to lose customers.
My nephew, who is on Shaw and has worked with computers since leaving tech school, tells me that Shaw appears to be throttling his cable and his node may be overloaded. Yesterday and today I put an SSD in my neighbour's laptop and did several downloads via Shaw. I also saw throttling, and told my neighbour that if I had his internet response I would switch to Telus the next day. To be fair, the throttling could have been upstream from Shaw.
If Shaw isn't putting enough money into expanding their nodes, they are going to lose customers.
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What could be upstream from Shaw. That would also throttle Teksavvy!Shakespeare wrote:if I had his internet response I would switch to Telus the next day. To be fair, the throttling could have been upstream from Shaw.
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The source could limit speed.
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That is what the "free" streaming websites are doing.Shakespeare wrote:The source could limit speed.
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Yes, but I was downloading programs as part of a W10 reinstallation - the HP printer driver, for example. I found it would stop after a few seconds (each 10%) and if I hit pause and redownload it would continue. So somebody was throttling somewhere.kcowan wrote:That is what the "free" streaming websites are doing.Shakespeare wrote:The source could limit speed.
This happened with several programs.
[I was installing an SSD in a 4yo laptop upgraded from W8 to W10 that took several minutes to boot.]
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A friend has signed up for unlimited streaming of TV services. He has found the CNN is often overloaded and features "stop and go" TV. It seems that TV sourced websites are not robust enough to supply sustained performance, unlike Netflix which makes money from the streaming.Shakespeare wrote:Yes, but I was downloading programs as part of a W10 reinstallation - the HP printer driver, for example. I found it would stop after a few seconds (each 10%) and if I hit pause and redownload it would continue. So somebody was throttling somewhere.kcowan wrote:That is what the "free" streaming websites are doing.Shakespeare wrote:The source could limit speed.
This happened with several programs.
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Re: Shaw Communications (Symbol-SJR.B)
Not sure if this has any effect on the stock, but....
Jim Shaw has died.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/j ... -1.4472210
Jim Shaw has died.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/j ... -1.4472210
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There will be more cash for shareholder dividends.....
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Re: Shaw Communications (Symbol-SJR.B)
From another topic ...
For some fun reading, check out After former CEO's death, is Shaw's executive pension plan fully funded? - The Globe and Mail
My guess is the Shaw family wants their income stream paid monthly, administrative costs be damned. Past history with their generous (egregious?) pension plans for family members has demonstrated their viewpoint on managing the company for the shareholders, NOT! This company is a prime example of the drawbacks on dual-class share structures.AltaRed wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018 22:05Utterly amazing but interesting. Wonder why they think it is worth the administrative costs.
For some fun reading, check out After former CEO's death, is Shaw's executive pension plan fully funded? - The Globe and Mail
Globe and Mail wrote:Another legacy of Mr. Shaw's tenure, however, was a massive pension, generated by a compensation plan that racked up hundreds of millions of dollars in obligations to just a handful of executives. Shaw Communications' board chose in 2010, as Mr. Shaw left the chief executive job at the age of 53, to pay him an annual pension of nearly $6-million. At the end of August, 2011 – the most recent pension data available on Mr. Shaw – the obligation to him, alone, was $85.1-million, likely the largest single amount owed to a plan member.
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Thank you. I have always hated this company due to their egregious raiding for family benefit. All family controlled companies likely cater to the family in varying amounts but I know of no other company that treats non-voting shareholders so poorly. I'd never own the stock out of principle.
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